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Hank Vandenburgh's avatar

I was in nursing for 15 years, and I have NEVER seen a pattern of men being paid more than a women. I suppose if men get nurse-anesthesist jobs and the like more than women, this could jog the average. Some of, not all of, SJW-PC stuff is too "feminine" in that it interferes with the individual overmuch. Rather than castrate men, we need to bring women to the same skills.

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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

A quibble with the quibble: "reasonable, data-based higher workplace standards for behavior" is question-begging. Reasonable to whom? Based on data used to optimize what metric? Feminists have rightly pointed out for ages that a "reasonable person standard" can be biased if the imaginary "reasonable person" is male-coded; the same can be true if they're female-coded. And sometimes pendulums that need to swing nonetheless swing too far; it could simultaneously be true that workplace behavior standards were too low in the past and are too high now.

All this makes me want to see a dialogue/argument between you and Richard Hanania. I find a lot of Hanania's prejudices off-putting, as I suspect you would too, but his ideas about the feminization of debate standards are relevant to this whole broader discussion.

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JERF's avatar

THIS!

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