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There's so much representativeness bias and recency bias here. The following can all be true at once, and in fact I think, with low-to-moderate confidence, probably are all true:

1. most deep-blue-urban-area schools (public and private) are "over-woke," i.e. pushing misandry, simplistic villain narratives, etc to an extent that harms a lot of kids and the broader culture and detracts from traditional educational effectiveness

2. most schools nationwide overall are still "under-woke," i.e. not giving kids a full enough picture of the social impact and severity of racism and misogyny to understand why things are the way they are now

3. most institutional attempts to change (2), however well intentioned, just end up making (1) worse, and conversely attempts to rein in (1) mostly exacerbate (2) instead.

(1) is naturally going to seem like a much bigger problem than it is, and (2) smaller than it is, because

-- (1) affects the chattering classes. It's both the easy and the lucrative thing to report about in the NY Times etc.

-- Relatedly, the community affected by (1) feels like a nation and a culture unto itself, and more so recently as our society grows more polarized and segregated. If all your friends have kids attending over-woke schools it's hard not to feel like it's "everywhere".

-- (1) is new and (2) is not, and we are wired to care more about the new shiny than about the grinding chronic problem.

And (3) happens for some of the same reasons. The people motivated to change (2) aren't really a part of the community affected by (2), and they are bad at persuading the people who are affected. So they use the persuasive leverage they have in order to at least feel they have Accomplished Something, which then goes to exacerbate (1). And similarly the other way around.

Wrt overall US educational effectiveness and cost-effectiveness, my modestly-informed impression is that this is a problem that spans the developing world, so it's not clear there is a proven less-broken model to turn to. We should still try and fix the problem, but it'll need more experimentation and take longer than if we could just do what Country X does instead.

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