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Grant Gould's avatar

Forced labor of any sort is always morally abhorrent, it is simply beyond the pale, and I would go so far as to say that it's morally mandatory to oppose it by force. In this hypothetical, sign me up for a job bombing draft offices, which I would do seven days a week to keep my daughter (who is taking a gap year before college) from being chained to the plow or whatever feudal nonsense demands free labor as a punishment for a moment's idleness.

Oh, and of course wages for teens would all drop to minimum overnight as employers would know they are a prospective employee's only alternative to the labor camps (you'd be extending the work-of-be-punished depredations of the H1B visas to tens of millions of people!), while colleges could jack tuition to the moon knowing they're selling get-out-of-serfdom-free cards. And of course you're de-facto bringing back vagrancy laws, a backbone of post-reconstruction racism.

If your national services are such a great idea, make them voluntary, pay a competitive wage, and see who takes you up on it: Putting people in jail for work-dodging (perhaps you'll sentence them to hard labor?) isn't going to make anyone better off.

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Noah Mullins's avatar

Ya this is something I've thought would be a good idea since my early 20s and I kind of wish it existed for me. My gut tells me that, ironically, if there was a survey done we'd find support for it higher among men than women.

There are other forms of service to look at too instead of just military. Military-like national service programs that focus on things like infrastructure building would have great potential too.

I also strongly suggest reading William James' The Moral Equivalent of War (it's not long). He endorses national service for a "war against nature" (essentially build lots of infrastructure) for all young adults in there as well as a way to hone the virtue of the individual and the nation as a whole.

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