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Andrew's avatar

I feel like this article really misses the role of these type of men in punishing men who push into more feminine coded habits.

Like most of my hobbies, and my profession of teaching are predominantly female and I’ve never been made to feel punished by upper income people for having these things. It was extremely violently enforced when I was a line cook between hs /university and in k12 school before that.

Like contra my wife’s experiences with workplace sexism, which is more constant even at high levels of achievement. It seems to me to be like cause of and symptom of some of the troubles for struggling men.

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Paul Crider's avatar

You think it's more accurate to say feminists have demonized men than it is to point out the still extant features of patriarchy?

I don't think we have to tell men to be more like women. I think we have to show men there are better versions of masculinity.

And I do think we have to tell someone something, however uncomfortable that makes us and however much we worry about moralizing and implying blame. We have to shape behavior through culture because it's fundamentally a cultural problem, not an economic one or anything else easily remedied by a policy toggle.

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